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Welcome to Mix & Mega Doubles! Mega Stones can be used on almost any fully evolved Pokémon with no Mega Evolution limit, and is played in a Doubles format! [Gen 7] Banlist and Clauses: Clauses:
[Gen 7] Doubles Ubers, Swagger Clause, Sleep Moves Clause, Mega Rayquaza Clause, Mega Stone Clause
Bans:
General Bans: All Sleep Moves (from Sleep Moves Clause), Baton Pass, Electrify, Moody Pokémon: Mega Rayquaza, Primal Groudon, Primal Kyogre These Pokémon cannot Mega Evolve non-natively: Arceus, Deoxys-A, Deoxys-N, Deoxys-S, Dialga, Dragonite, Giratina, Groudon, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, Lugia, Lunala, Marshadow, Mewtwo^, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, Palkia, Rayquaza, Regigigas, Reshiram, Slaking, Solgaleo, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zekrom, Zygarde with Power Construct. Items: Blue Orb, Red Orb Restricted to Pokémon with the ability in base form: Blazikenite, Gengarite, Medichamite, Mawilite Restricted to native users only: Beedrillite, Kangaskhanite, Pidgeotite
[Gen 8] Banlist and Clauses: Clauses:
[Gen 8] Doubles Ubers, Dynamax Clause, Sleep Moves Clause, Swagger Clause, Mega Stone Clause
Bans:
General Bans: All Sleep Moves (by Sleep Moves Clause), Baton Pass, Electrify Mega Stones: Beedrillite, Blazikenite, Gengarite, Kangkaskhanite, Mawilite, Medichamite, Pidgeotite These Pokémon cannot Mega Evolve: Calyrex-Ice, Calyrex-Shadow, Dialga, Giratina, Groudon, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, Lugia, Lunala, Marshadow, Mewtwo, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, Palkia, Rayquaza, Regigigas, Reshiram, Slaking, Solgaleo, Urshifu-Single-Strike, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zacian, Zamazenta, Zekrom, Zygarde with Power Construct.
Council: @Clastia @TrainerGrapeAlt Resources: Viability Rankings: #mnm-doubles-viability-rankings Sample Teams: #mnm-doubles-sample-teams
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TrainerGrapeAlt 15-Feb-22 08:59 AM
Messages.
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messages.
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TrainerGrapeAlt 17-Feb-22 06:28 AM
Why
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SEND "messages"
07:46
not "why"
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follow Brenz
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not "why"
TrainerGrapeAlt 17-Feb-22 07:47 AM
Contradiction
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TrainerGrapeAlt 04-Mar-22 01:12 PM
Mnm doubles ubers would be the same as mnm doubles rn
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Does it allow gdon to hold stones
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If so, then it gets interesting
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maybe
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is stuff like blastoisinite heal pulse a thing here
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hard to tell because its not playable on main sadly
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is stuff like blastoisinite heal pulse a thing here
TrainerGrapeAlt 12-Apr-22 08:43 PM
Yes, but heal pulse is a move with low distribution
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So you need to run a mon solely to healing, when stuff like triage comfey exist for that reason and provide prio healing and helping hand (edited)
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if you wanted to run a mon that could provide heal pulse support while still packing offense you could probably run a lucario with aura sphere/flash cannon/heal pulse/filler (protect, dark pulse, follow me, etc.) unsure if that'd be any good though
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it would still lack in bulk, so idt it would be any good
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if you wanted to run a mon that could provide heal pulse support while still packing offense you could probably run a lucario with aura sphere/flash cannon/heal pulse/filler (protect, dark pulse, follow me, etc.) unsure if that'd be any good though
TrainerGrapeAlt 15-Apr-22 04:27 AM
Cool concept, but meta is too powerful for lucario to stick around for more than 2 turns
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY 27-May-22 09:29 AM
Better name mnmnm
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bit of an update to reduce overcentralisation of non-megas: banned caly-s, zardite y (groudon being watched), zac-c, mage, and unrestricted ursh (etern unbanned but not exactly top tier)
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TrainerGrapeAlt 23-Jul-22 07:29 AM
Oh cool
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Caly and zac c was a pain
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Somebody chall me lol
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It's been too long
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Clastia
bit of an update to reduce overcentralisation of non-megas: banned caly-s, zardite y (groudon being watched), zac-c, mage, and unrestricted ursh (etern unbanned but not exactly top tier)
zardite y?
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what were
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the abusers
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abusers first
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then stone (edited)
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ive seen koko, anything fire, mew, and there are more viable setters
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personally im not a fan of duber weather mons but theyre fine for now
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i think its worth watching pult tho, kinda crazy mon
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Clastia
ive seen koko, anything fire, mew, and there are more viable setters
TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 11:50 AM
Setters of what?
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Clastia
i think its worth watching pult tho, kinda crazy mon
TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 11:51 AM
Pult isn't that crazy right
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I mean it's phy set is trash
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And it's special set isn't too big a deal
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And it isn't the fastest mon out there
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n pult is fast
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its phys set is p good
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and the special set isnt bad either
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 11:59 AM
Pforce isn't good tho
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it also has a mixed set
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TrainerGrapeAlt
Pforce isn't good tho
yes it is
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 11:59 AM
Ddart ehh ig
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this is doubles
11:59
what comes in on a pforce
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you cant protect
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Clastia
yes it is
TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:00 PM
You don't have dymax turns to stall out, so it is meh
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doesnt matter (edited)
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it gets clear body base so doesnt fear intim (nor would it on the 2nd turn)
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its actually consistent and gives a free protect turn
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and hits hard bc ghost is broken as a type
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it also has quite a few other options it can use
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:02 PM
But what stones does it use?
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manec, luc, hound, alt/pins to name a few
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:02 PM
And do my samples still exist
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Id chall u rn
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should yeah
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and i cant bc no teams rn but ill build one now
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featuring pult
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TrainerGrapeAlt
Id chall u rn
TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:03 PM
If ik where my teams were
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Clastia
and i cant bc no teams rn but ill build one now
TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:03 PM
K I'll build smth as well
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naganadel also looks great btw
12:03
same with kart
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rachi as support is good
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we also should try out mnmvgc at some point, 0, 1 and 2 restricteds (edited)
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY 25-Jul-22 12:05 PM
i would like to play this meta
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if i fking knew how to teambuild for doubles
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and play it good
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY
if i fking knew how to teambuild for doubles
TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:10 PM
U can try tho
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY 25-Jul-22 12:10 PM
i tried making a tr team once
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cant think of good members
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:11 PM
Stak should be good on tr
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+ some wide guard support
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY 25-Jul-22 12:11 PM
on tgere
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i had
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dhel dracovish perser and stak
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thats it
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:12 PM
Vish?
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Perser?
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Ig steely spirit
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But still
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Clas im on rom rn
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@Clastia u ready?
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not yet sry
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:16 PM
Well I'll keep tuning my team then
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Ready now?
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I got some new tech that I came up with just now
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@Clastia ? @ThePersonWhoLikesXNY ?
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY 25-Jul-22 12:27 PM
?
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:31 PM
Wanna play?
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY 25-Jul-22 12:31 PM
no team
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:31 PM
Wanna give u one?
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Jump on rom then
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY 25-Jul-22 12:31 PM
if u really wanna gimme 10 mins
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY
if u really wanna gimme 10 mins
TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:31 PM
I'll give u one if u want
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ThePersonWhoLikesXNY 25-Jul-22 12:32 PM
nah i am better at using teams i made on my own
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:32 PM
K
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I'll be on rom then
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i still think gdon and kyo should go
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bc rn i feel like youre at a disadvantage by not using either of them
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what mons want to use ttarite or abomasite?
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why would they even want to come in?
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c9 isnt on any megas so u have to use ray for that
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and mray is banned too
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i think its worth pointing out that i do believe that tork, peli and poli are all at least somewhat viable, especially tork and poli (edited)
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peli at least has a good typing + physbulk to live a few hits while also setting twind
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@TrainerGrapeAlt worth setting up a vr?
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for mnm doubles
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i do also want to try to get it on main as lcotm
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:49 PM
I mean yea
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But i wont be too active
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thats fine
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well work with what weve got
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kyo + gdon imo rn are s
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ill set up a stone vr too
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:49 PM
Yea
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bc thats needed bc of the vastly different metagame
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:51 PM
Kyo ho would be fun to play around with again
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I was wondering about coil zyg with screen support thi
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How powerful could it get?
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Smth like pult can even support it with screens and them breaking swipe the enemy
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yeah + manec
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or even lscreen
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:53 PM
+ manec or galladite would be cool (edited)
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yeah galladite is great
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i hadnt thought of it at all but
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its great
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i wonder if we could get someone like yuki to play the format
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:54 PM
Galladite is really underrated, shame I couldnt showcase it at all in our match
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no you did
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just.. not on the best example
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bc +30spe
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:56 PM
Yea, didn't know why, but I wanted to bait fake outs expecting tr, but get shocked by inner focus
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And get a suprise ko
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Didn't quite pan out like that
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yeah sadly
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but it really helps vs the intim spam meta we have rn
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:57 PM
Exactly
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like arc, incin, lando-t, manec etc are all viable
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:57 PM
Intim + manec is really painful
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oh yeah btw
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zac-h is free iirc
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 12:58 PM
Oh
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Wait
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Really
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yeah
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Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Clastia and TrainerGirlAlt ([Gen 8] Mix and Mega Doubles)
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Clastia
zac-h is free iirc
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:00 PM
Sd+play rough go brrrr
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Second move smth like sacred sword
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Not threatened by incin anymore
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ig
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:02 PM
Coz no steel type
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i was thinking lorb/band
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wo sd
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i do think zac will be too much btw lol
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Clastia
i was thinking lorb/band
TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:03 PM
I was thinking the same, but sd would provide lethality late game
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yeah
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:04 PM
I was also thinking balloon zac coz gdon but that's just me cteaming sun (edited)
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balloon is viable
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but it ohkos anyway at +2
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:04 PM
Yea
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(which is why zac is dumb)
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:05 PM
Ur mandi set is cool
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qb after test?
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:05 PM
Yea
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TrainerGrapeAlt
Ur mandi set is cool
too much i wanted to fit on
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:05 PM
Fplay is needed, twind is optional
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sday for pult and other stuff, twind bc speed, fplay for damage, uturn for slow pivot, roost for recovery
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TrainerGrapeAlt 25-Jul-22 01:06 PM
Sunny day is cool, but only affects few mons
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U-turn can be dropped
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If you want to fit smth else
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U turn helps ease predictions is all
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yeah
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@TrainerGrapeAlt whats ur email so i can add u to vr stuff
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TrainerGrapeAlt 26-Jul-22 07:44 AM
Alvinvinny1@gmail.com
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huh?
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cool thx
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@Clastia do u have time to set a tour and play it
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w/e format; doesn't matter (edited)
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on rom or main
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haven't played anything for like
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around a week
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Clastia
on rom or main
main ig
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I was hoping to req another format
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but
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nvm
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oh lol
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